Kinder Than Khadgar: How Questing Became the New Grind


You may remember Khadgar from such World of Warcraft quests as Khadgar's Task, The Dark Portal, and Entry Into Karazhan. I remember Khadgar from the words: "Follow me, stranger. This won’t take long."

It was the spring of 2007. A Coke bottle had just spilled onto my mother's carpet, an old flower-patterned creation from the seventies. I was in Shattrath, the central city of the latest WoW expansion. Now and then my gnome shuddered forward, trapped amidst a sea of lag. Finally I got to the quest giver I'd been inching towards, a bearded wizard in a white and blue robe. Khadgar didn't look pleased to see me.

The mage, you see, is quite famous.

Wowpedia calls him "one of the most powerful magi in Azerothian history." Dr_Scaphandre, a user on the charmingly-named, declares the Hearthstone Mage version of Khadgar "better then [sic] Medivh, mainly for his emotes." Page 36 of Warcraft: The Last Guardian, a novel featuring the wizard and his former master, explains that "Khadgar" means trust in Dwarven. Even his name is audacious.

A Lesson In Pain

My gnome stared up at the wizard and his quest-signalling exclamation point. A wall of text was incoming. Swallowing hard, I clicked and skimmed.

"You do not look familiar. I suppose you want to learn about the city? You'll have to excuse me if I don't give you a tour myself."

I was being given the old heave ho. Understandably so, Khadgar was pure royalty.

Summoning an elemental, the mage bid me away—except his reskinned Voidwalker tour guide stood rooted to the spot. Around it, player characters ran infinitely: your standard MMO disconnection. I read the elemental's speech bubble before the game threw me to the login screen. "Follow me, stranger," it said. "This won’t take long.

Four attempts later, I wasn't so sure. The elemental servant would spew text about the city, gliding along like an elderly swan. If I made my gnome auto-run, I shot ahead. If I walked, I got left behind. It was impossible to keep pace. More annoyingly, the creature's rambles about Shattrath, my new home, were unfailingly insipid. I would lag and the NPC would get too far away, cancelling the quest and forcing me to start again. A quest that was supposed to take eight minutes ended up taking an hour.

Several expansions later, friends would tell me about bugs plaguing the City of Light quest. My favourite was the one where the NPC stopped talking, rendering the tour—essentially a lore-sharing opportunity—completely pointless. City of Light was cursed. To this day, its Wowhead entry reads like the typed-up notes of a session at Guantanamo.

Quests as awful as City of Light are rare. But in MMORPGs quests that exist solely for taking up time and coughing up XP are frequent enough to be considered the norm. We go from quest hub to quest hub—gathering one, five, ten quests—killing X number of Y creatures, and we accept this is the way we push through our gaming experience rather than quests being an experience all by themselves. Because character level determines our skills, we march dutifully on. Quests may feature people we are supposed to care about, but they regularly reveal nothing new about the story and choose not to test our abilities in a meaningful way. Considering quests are so inescapable, it's unsurprising a fatigue has set in amongst gamers who look to sandbox MMORPGs for something different. But aren’t quests essential to the genre?

Life In The Kill-Based Levelling Era

Pre-WoW, it was more common to "ding" by bashing a million goblins to death. Quests were scarce and scattered about. They featured vague clues about slaughtering a pig under the light of a waning gibbous moon, except when you managed to hunt down a post on a forum that accurately decoded the quest, you realised you'd equipped the wrong knife and your robes were supposed to be dyed mauve. Also you were about five hundred miles to the north of the right location.

The first MMO I loved, Dark Age of Camelot, had a series of epic quests for every class. One of my alts, a Sorcerer, had done four steps of her chain already. I watched as her avatar ran across Salisbury Plains, monsters dotted here and there amongst a wash of green. I was level 28 and understood what it meant to fear death.

Hunting for a guard tower, I got horribly lost. Lowbie mobs came thick and fast. I stunned, turned, and fled. When I found the right tower, it was pitch black on the Plains. By some small miracle— and a lot of squinting—I started clearing out the channelers I was after.

Of course, when they'd all bit the big one, I had completely forgotten what I was doing there. And the quest log wasn't all too helpful in reminding me. It turned out I had to “/use” a staff in my inventory so I could cast a spell that would leapfrog me to the next step. Killing a thousand mobs to reach 29 felt less painful than running about in the dark with little-to-no hand-holding. Because the truth is I did need a bit more help than I was getting, and when WoW came along with its streamlined, intuitive quest system it felt noticeably humane by comparison.

Why is it then that neither old school methods or the novel WoW approach (appropriated by most MMORPGs after it) fulfil our idea of questing in the traditional sense of the word?

As discussed by Ethan Macfie, quests in most MMORPGs are closer to tasks (go here, collect this, kill that). They also flout key questing criteria ingrained in us from literature and mythology. They are easy, repetitive, and quick to conquer. Questing via a conveyor belt from one hub to another, when questing alone is often the only way to reach the level cap, removes the choice and pre-planning found in earlier MMOs.

Thanks to WoW, quests today may be comfortable, but they don’t allow us to stumble into our own stories.

The Secret World And Player Initiative

In 2012, an MMORPG called The Secret World was released to critical praise—at least for its approach to questing.

Why The Secret World works is quite simple:

1) There are no quest hubs.
2) Want quests? Go out and explore.
3) Tiny details in the environment often prove extremely important. Numbers, web addresses, you name it. You have to read documents and learn about the world. The world, in turn, becomes relevant.
4) The number of quests (here missions) you can have at one time is limited. So you’re not bogged down by walls of text and ten objectives to do before dinner.

TSW’s questing gets it right by forcing players to wander about and soak up the atmosphere in the process. An Investigation Mission, for example, may force you to find an obscure item in a church. And real world knowledge can be a big advantage. The developers give you an in-game browser so you don’t tear your hair out while playing, but knowledge of Morse code or the Bible may very well come in handy.

Questing feels personal.

The Secret World rewards curiosity. It also breathes wonder back into questing by lending meaning to objects and textures.

While questing in Dark Age of Camelot felt like trying to solve a Rubik’s cube with my hands tied behind my back, solving puzzles in TSW was difficult without being cruel. That’s not to say I didn’t cheat and look up answers. I just appreciate alternatives to the WoW cakewalk.

The Future Of Quests In MMORPGs

Quests needn’t be essential to the genre. Games should allow us to level up via crafting, exploring, performing music, and interacting socially. When questing can generally be reduced to five different types, it calls for a change.

It’s good to remember, though, that Khadgar and his infamous City of Light stand at the pinnacle of time-wasting bores.

The best quests don’t feel like grinds. They force us to travel and make choices and define our own experience. To some degree, MMORPGs are treading the path blazed by tabletop roleplaying games, and yet as the genre becomes more its own questing will need yet another lick of paint and a second WoW-like reinvention.

Let’s hope the quest-makers of the future are kinder than Khadgar.

Luke is a student-for-life finishing his master’s thesis any day now. Definitely probably. He loves sleeping, eating, and drinking in that order. Luke lives in Sweden but was born in England. Thanks to Brexit, he will probably be deported later this year.

  • Your articles given me a lot to think about. I recently started playing Vanilla WoW and it's funny how different questing was. I didn't remember it being such a hands-off approach. Even though Vanilla set a new standard, that original foundation is lost in modern MMORPGs. You had to pay attention to quest text, read what area of the map you were on, actually look at the items you were to collect—no sparkles indicating what you're meant to pick up, no hover-text indicating that this is a mob hiding the item you need somewhere in its fur.

    "The best quests don’t feel like grinds. They force us to travel and make choices and define our own experience." You nailed it right here. I have hope for the future of questing, and I envision something far more open-ended, but its hazy right now. But I'm looking forward to a game that forces me to pay attention to the world again, that creates a sense that what I'm doing does have an effect on the world even if it's not obvious. At least make sense, no swords on Boars ><

    • LAMBDA471

      But that's way more interesting that being held by the hand or level up 5 times within the first minute. I wish I could experience Vanilla WoW anew, but I already know the quests, so as long as I see the name and objectives, I already remember the story and where I have to go and what I have to do.

      I personally prefer the questing times, killing is cool, but not as the main aspect and what current MMOs are doing is just plain boring, I don't even know what it is, but it sucks. Vanilla WoW managed to capture both questing and world PvP in a really awesome way, although ganking could become a serious problem.

      Not a single Asian WoW clone ever managed to do it as good as WoW did, even ASTA, which was released a few months back, resorts to repetitive objective with increasing numbers - at level 5 you need to kill 5 wolves, at level 40, you need to kill 40 demons. Killing mobs and gathering items should never go above 15. That's the breaking point and beyond that it becomes utter grind.

    • Luke

      I feel it can happen. I really do. Veteran players are so fatigued by repetitive questing mechanics and I imagine developers must be too. It would help if lore tidbits and quest dialogues were done in such a way that players didn't feel the need to skip them, at least the first time around.

      More than anything, I just want to be sucked into a world and an experience again.

  • I think we REALLY lost touch with what questing was supposed to be - both loresharing and adventuring. Nowadays its neither. Kill 10 slimes doesn't real any lore AND isn't an "adventure" or any sort. Perhaps game designers have been listening too closely to one vocal group of players and just delivering a streamlined experience instead of a better designed one.

    I miss questing in games like EverQuest where quests told a story and weren't always particularly rewarding (on the XP/Coin front). I miss them because they told interesting stories and revealed facts about the game world that weren't otherwise known. This was more engaging back in the primitive days of the internet, as you couldn't look up the solution to every puzzle/quest.

    Bah. Questing is just another form of grind now ;/

    • Luke

      Every time I see another "Kill 10 slimes" quest, a part of me shrivels up and dies 😛

      And I agree with you about lore sharing and adventuring. That's the thing with a great quest: it weaves in lore, character development, fun combat, a sense of wonder about the world...and it feels so effortless. I doubt all quests can be like this, but putting players on a questing treadmill is a fast way to turn them into drudgery.

  • Suiko

    I think there can be a healthy balance between quest grind and killing monster grind. In ROSE online for the job change quest, it was a long quest but most of the time was spent trying to find a drop from monsters. It could take hours of killing the same monster to find the drop.